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#1 2017-11-08 11:15:05

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November Handicap trends?

Any trends going up for this?

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#2 2017-11-08 12:57:26

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Re: November Handicap trends?

If the going remains soft fancy the chances of J. Gosden's ROYAL LINE, W. Buick booked 8/1 at present, very lightly raced 3 year old getting age for weight allowance. At the top of the handicap 106 rated TOP TUG at 12's worth an e/way nibble, used to 14f on good so 12f soft should have stamina for placed run.

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#3 2017-11-08 22:40:23

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Re: November Handicap trends?

little rossi wrote:


If the going remains soft fancy the chances of J. Gosden's ROYAL LINE, W. Buick booked 8/1 at present, very lightly raced 3 year old getting age for weight allowance. At the top of the handicap 106 rated TOP TUG at 12's worth an e/way nibble, used to 14f on good so 12f soft should have stamina for placed run.
I'm guessing no trends again rossi ! If he runs I would be very interested in Wild Hacked - turf mark still below his best winning mark on the aw and the form of his last race when third has worked out really well and he is currently double the price of Dance The Dream who he beat then on worse terms than here. Good form on soft ground and ran well only run at Donnie. (Took some 16/1 after final decs).

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#4 2017-11-09 10:18:00

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Re: November Handicap trends?

little rossi wrote:


If the going remains soft fancy the chances of J. Gosden's ROYAL LINE, W. Buick booked 8/1 at present, very lightly raced 3 year old getting age for weight allowance. At the top of the handicap 106 rated TOP TUG at 12's worth an e/way nibble, used to 14f on good so 12f soft should have stamina for placed run.

With you on Royal Line didnt get 8's though, had  adecent wedge on at 13/2

May back Dance the Dream as well

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#5 2017-11-09 11:07:50

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Re: November Handicap trends?


For what its worth I have added last years winner Prize Money 3 year old carried 8 - 10 to the 2016 stats and I hope these are accurate:


Any age has won   2x3years 4x4y 3x5y 2x6y+
9/11 carried 8-10 - 9-05
10/11 placed in first 3 in either or both last2 runs
10/11 had won 11f+ the odd one was having its first go
11/11 ran best RPR over 10f + on one of last 3 runs
Mr Gosden trained the winner last year his 3rd winner and the owner was Godolphin also their third winner

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#6 2017-11-09 12:15:25

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Re: November Handicap trends?



Azari ran its best RPR 3 runs ago over the distance on softish  ground in a class 2  Royal handicap at Haydock. Its two runs since have been over only 10f where it was staying on at the finish in both. Had £5 ew 33/1 (Wm Hill) for now. And £10 win 7/1 (lads) Royal  Line to be another one for Mr Gosden. He won the race for the Sheik  many years ago with Sabadilla a 3 year old .


no money this morning for Azari out to 40/1 but solid money for Royal Line so top up with £10 ew 11/2 Royal Line


Azari at 50/1 with Wm Hill  £5 ew Azari has no chance it seems but I keep the faith.

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#7 2017-11-09 21:51:52

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Re: November Handicap trends?

broadway wrote:



For what its worth I have added last years winner Prize Money 3 year old carried 8 - 10 to the 2016 stats and I hope these are accurate:


Any age has won   2x3years 4x4y 3x5y 2x6y+
9/11 carried 8-10 - 9-05
10/11 placed in first 3 in either or both last2 runs
10/11 had won 11f+ the odd one was having its first go
11/11 ran best RPR over 10f + on one of last 3 runs
Mr Gosden trained the winner last year his 3rd winner and the owner was Godolphin also their third winner
Thanks for these broadway - Prize Money was a Godolphin horse but trained by Bin Suroor, not big John !

Looks like lot of support for Royal Line but only 3 runs so far all in small fields, quite an ask to win this I think unless he's exceptionally well handicapped.

My other bet in this likely to be the other 3yo on a light weight, Kevin Ryan's Syphax. Began the season as a classic hope and ran in the Dante but largely disappointing before a good second lto in big field handicap. Could build on that and run a big race here.

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