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#1 2017-03-28 15:10:27

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The Derby.. The Oaks..

I took a little punt on 2 for the above races... I backed Rivet for the Derby @16/1 in a e/w double with Wuheida @14/1 for the Oaks..


Rivet is more than likely not going to the 2,000 G's as his trainer stated that he didn't seem to act well round there.. welcome to Epsom so!!  but I like him and he won the R.P Trophy well last year.. and also beat Thunder Snow at Doncaster..  


Wuheida is unbeaten and surely will have no problems staying the Oaks trip.. I also backed her €50 e/w @12/1 for English 1,000 G's as a friend of mine was at Huntingdon and the buzz going round was that she worked really, really well..  I hope she does go to the 1,000.. and wins!!


So there is my 2 for the Derby + Oaks.... maybe risky.. but if you risk nothing you gain exactly that...nothing.

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#2 2017-03-29 01:38:12

Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Cliffs Of Moher my ante post pick for Derby. Galileo colt who beat Orderofthegarter by 5l in a maiden as a 2yo and Orderofthegarter scooted home at Curragh on opening day last Sunday.

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#3 2017-03-29 04:44:34

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

During the Meydan festival the trainer gave a very upbeat report to the press (Guardian 23 March) on the unbeaten Group 1 winner Wuheida and nominated the Oaks as the target. I took ew 14/1.

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#4 2017-03-30 00:44:17

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

With just 5 weeks to the guineas week.. I am reading now that William Haggas is saying.. "! There is only one 2,000 guineas.. Eh no there is 3.. The English.. Irish. And French.. Well I think those are the ones that matter.. And only the fillies can run in all the classics.. So I guess William is thinking of letting Rivet take his chance.. Pending how he runs at in the Greenham.. Or at the Craven meeting at HQ.. I have backed Rivet at 16/1 €10ew for the 2,000 gs.. As I think he will be clear 2nd fav if he wins at one of those trial days.. I also get the feeling he has developed into a fine 3 year old and is also working quite well.. He got the mile so well last year in the r.p trophy that I feel he could cause a mini upset.. I really hope he does run as I think think the 2,000 is the best trial and you need to stay well to win it.. Heres hoping Rivet bolts in!!!

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#5 2017-03-30 05:16:27

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Derby:
Sir John Lavery 25/1
Auckland 33/1
Venice Beach 33/1

Surprised if I don't win with this trio think they will be Ballydoyle's best chances to win the race

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#6 2017-03-30 05:17:32

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

eoinmc wrote:


Cliffs Of Moher my ante post pick for Derby. Galileo colt who beat Orderofthegarter by 5l in a maiden as a 2yo and Orderofthegarter scooted home at Curragh on opening day last Sunday.




Doesn't get home over 12f or shall I say he won't

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#7 2017-04-13 07:02:41

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Auckland and Churchill are very closely related... Im really lookin forward to the first week in May now.

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#8 2017-04-13 15:39:06

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Wuheida out of Oaks!!  sickner.. but that horse racing...  just ain't machines..  ah well you will always make your money back on ones you lost it on..St Nicholas Abbey springs to mind.

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#9 2017-04-13 17:19:45

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

broadway wrote:


During the Meydan festival the trainer gave a very upbeat report to the press (Guardian 23 March) on the unbeaten Group 1 winner Wuheida and nominated the Oaks as the target. I took ew 14/1.
Out now mate, tough lines

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#10 2017-04-13 21:52:00

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Lets hope Sir John Lavery wins ,backed him antepost with bet365  @ 50/1 with Rhoendron  Oaks @ 7/1....
Come on Bob Get on!!!!!!!!

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#11 2017-04-19 20:50:40

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

John Gosden once again seems to have a very good crop of fillies..  Daban very impressive today, get the feeling that was abit of a surprise to connections, so bodes well for Dabyah this weekend, who looks ideally suited to the 7f in the Fred Darling..  But also bodes well for Shutter Speed..  Won well on debut over a mile, doing all best work at the finish, dams only other horse won lto over 1m6f, so every chance Shutter Speed could excel once upped in trip.  Gosden yard won the Oaks a few years back with the top class Taghrooda, looking at the current market for the race, this race could really cut up, a couple injured and wont make the race, and a good few others got no chance of seeing out the trip..   Shutter Speed 25/1 EW Betbright 

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#12 2017-04-19 22:13:44

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

D.k Weld unleashed a very smyart filly last week still can't remember her name.. But she looks right smart and Weld thinks she could well make up into an Oaks filly.. Keeping an eye on her!!

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#13 2017-04-20 16:11:30

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

I feel Rivet will skip the 2,000 now and go for the Dante instead.. As I can't see him winning the guineas from the front?? So I think York will be next up.. And then the Derby! Might be wrong but I will be looking for a price for the Dante now.. Eminent very good winner and would look better again in 6 weeks time.. He looks like he will stay.. Starting to hot up now.. War Decree poor even though Frankie ruined the race for everybody..

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#14 2017-04-21 16:43:02

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

pk75 wrote:


John Gosden once again seems to have a very good crop of fillies..  Daban very impressive today, get the feeling that was abit of a surprise to connections, so bodes well for Dabyah this weekend, who looks ideally suited to the 7f in the Fred Darling..  But also bodes well for Shutter Speed..  Won well on debut over a mile, doing all best work at the finish, dams only other horse won lto over 1m6f, so every chance Shutter Speed could excel once upped in trip.  Gosden yard won the Oaks a few years back with the top class Taghrooda, looking at the current market for the race, this race could really cut up, a couple injured and wont make the race, and a good few others got no chance of seeing out the trip..   Shutter Speed 25/1 EW Betbright 
Well chuffed with the win for Shutter Speed today, top priced for the Oaks now @8/1 and as low as 6/1:)

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#15 2017-04-23 13:46:52

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Really interested to see which one Ballydoyle run in the Chester Vase. Not necessarily because they've won it 7 in the last 10 years but because last year US Army Ranger was their main Derby hope going into Chester - in fact when he won his maiden prior to Chester, Joseph who saddle him up supposedly told Ryan Moore,' this could get beat today and still win the Derby'.  Even when Rule the World won the Vase he was down the pecking order going in to Chester week and it has always been a given that they run their main hope in the Derrinstown (apart from Guineas horses) and last year seemed to be a change in direction. Just makes the Chester runner this year a bit more interesting.

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#16 2017-04-24 17:39:37

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Re: The Derby.. The Oaks..

Well done pk75 some begrudger was on some other thread sayin you couldn't pick an apple off a tree... Well I hope you have a nice bit on Shutter speed..@25/1.. Plus I hope it bolts up for ya.. Some people just can't wish other people well!! Anyhow best of luck and well done pointing out 2 nice winners the winner of the Oaks

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